Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 6 of 18
Physicist and consciousness researcher, Thomas Campbell, Discusses the nature of reality in terms of consciousness – this video logically and scientifically explains the normal and the paranormal, mind and matter, physics and metaphysics, philosophy and theology.
Tags: Connection, Consciousness, Metaphysics, Physics
July 24th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
@twcjr44 Thanks for the replies, Tom- I”m definitely going to pick up a copy of your book for further learning.
July 24th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
@HigherPlanes,
Boiled up to just a few words — Thats it.
Tom
July 24th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
@twcjr44 I find this presentation truly fascinating, I must say. I”ve heard similar ideas before but never quite how you describe them. So is your take on a physical reality is that there is no physical reality? It”s just pure consciousness receiving data hence processing that data therefore experiencing reality?
July 24th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
@acuaman42,
You misinterpret my words. That is easy to do.
July 24th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
@HigherPlanes,
As you expressed intent to interact, the incomming data stream would change to support your “perception” of that interaction. It is a multi[player game so you can also interact with others. Think of how a server runs a multiplayer game when you (your character) decide to interact or do sometthing like turn around.
July 24th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
@HigherPlanes,
Consciousness is not perceived, it is somthing you are — one would experience being consciousness — being one with all.
July 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I like his analogy of being dropped into a hole and presented with data which in turn reproduces the experience. But I have hangup… what would happen if you wanted to interact with objects in your experience? Since in reality you”re in a hole
July 24th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
@twcjr44 What”s your take on what occurs during deep meditative experiences where ego death is involved? How is consciousness perceived during that stage?
July 24th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
@twcjr44 Connotation vs. denotation
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In order to understand what Mr. Campbell tries to explain in 18 videos with lots of contradictions, I suggest you better see Chuck Hillig, THE MEANING OF LIFE, in youtube, and with that you will understand everything in just 13 minutes. Save your time.
July 24th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
You said that consciousness cannot be experienced by anyone, yet everyone is nothing but consciousness. Thus you must believe that consciousness cannot experience itself, which implies that consciousness is not self-aware, i.e., not sentient, i.e., dead like a rock, then consciousness, or you, or both, must be like a rock i.e., not self-aware.
July 24th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
In contrast, it is my opinion that all individuated units of consciousness can (have the potential to) directly experience (become aware of) the larger consciousness system (LCS) of which they are a part. There is nothing but consciousness, and it is self-aware/sentient.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:05 am
. It is true that you (as well as the LCS) experience/interpret only the data and not the source of the data, but the data is the substance of consciousness, the information, the content, the meaning. We, as consciousness, create data (are the source) that others (including the LCS) can only interpret. All that says is that consciousness/awareness is individual, thus subjective. Trying to make consciousness objective creates the logical inconsistency of us not being ONE with the LCS.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:27 am
Consciousness can not be experienced because is the basis of everything and there is nothing out of it. If someone EXPERIENCES CONSCIOUSNESS it means the “I” or “EGO” is experiencing it, then are two the subject “I” and the object “CONSCIOUSNESS”. This is impossible Mr. Campbell.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Consciousness is not dependent on meaning. Consciousness is. Meaning and experiencing are products of mind functioning.. or brain activity.. of which Consciousness is aware.. but Consciousness is always prior. Even a bug or a baby is consciousness. a brain is not dependent on Consciousness.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:02 am
The words are limited indeed when speaking of such matters. ”PMR intellectual awareness” is just body consciousness. You have this knowledge ”I AM”, so you are conscious, even without body which makes you know that you are, there is ”I AM”, lets call it pure consciousness. Experience, time, space, subject, object is in the domain of Consciousness. What i am pointing at is that even this ”I AM” pure consciousness (or universal) is dependent upon something. That something is not even Consciousness
July 25th, 2010 at 2:31 am
I generally make no distinction between the two — I sometimes use both to describe Big Picture consciousness. I very seldom ever mention little picture PMR intellectual awareness. However, I agree, one should not confuse PMR intellectual awareness with consciousness. Consciousness creates virtual PMR intellectual awareness (which is probably what you are calling consciousness). Guessing what others mean by the words they use is often difficult. I should define my words better.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Consciousness is dependent on awareness, awareness is not dependent on consciousness.
Whether there is consciousness or unconsciousness, something is always aware of everything and no-thing.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Hi.Yes,unfotunately,it does apply to my comment also. Unfortunately, i can”t give you the experience.Moreover, it is not my place to force any of my Knowledge onto you, not only would this be wrong but actually impossible. Take care-happy hunting.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:25 am
Hi. Does your point about words apply to your comment also?
My experience is there is conscious awareness and there is the experiential content of which awareness is aware.
This distinction is rarely realised because most people never examine their actual experience of consciousness; they discuss it as a topic in consciousness; but awareness is not an object in consciousness; and as a word in a sentence it is only a signpost, not the thing itself.
I am aware that language is semiotic.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:09 am
Think about what you said in your last posting,-”Your theory seems to be about the content of consciousness…not consciousness itself”-. The fact is consciousness itself is the Experience, there are no words in an experience.If it could be expressed in words then you surely would understand.The fact is words only get in the way and serve to confuse matters. You must understand that there is no truth in words,all language is a construct of the Ego and as such has high entropy, disorder.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:15 am
“Consciousness is neither physical nor dependent on the physical.”
This intuitively makes complete sense. And it also makes me wonder whether the 11 dimensions of string theory have something to do with the fact that we cannot currently devise a “test” for consciousness. Our physical “tests” are focused on the 3-4 dimensions of our own local experience; there could be so much more to it that we cannot even fathom.
Frustrating as hell.
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The word consciousness is sometimes used to designate the content (or objects) of awareness; and sometimes to designate the awareness of awareness. So I think the confusion arises from the variability of usage of the word.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Awareness is not something different — a separate independent thing. Consciousness is aware, that is its nature, like liquid water is wet. There is no such thing as unaware consciousness. Perhaps you are confusing consciousness the thing with unconsciousness the state of a comatose virtual body. A comatose body is no longer able to express its consciousness in PMR. Consciousness is neither physical nor dependent on the physical. Physical reality is an interpretation of data.
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