Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 7 of 18
Physicist and consciousness researcher, Thomas Campbell, Discusses the nature of reality in terms of consciousness — this video logically and scientifically explains the normal and the paranormal, mind and matter, physics and metaphysics, philosophy and theology.
Tags: Connection, Consciousness, Metaphysics, Physics
July 27th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
The virtual body applies the constraints of the PMR rule-set to our perception — what information and information processing that lies beyond the constraints of the body (the interpretations of consciousness) will not be contained within the body — thus the body cannot divulge it. The body can only tell about the constraints it imposes (some limited number of types perhaps). The details of content belong to the consciousness.
July 27th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
So, would you think it possible to some day have instrumentation that could quantify emotions in a more objective mannor?
July 27th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
@frankche1 Many physicists have experienced OBE’s, NDE’s while being influenced by thought altering drugs like LSD. Physicist Roger G. Vogelsang said he used LSD to induce a NDE. Said he left his body & went down a tunnel leading to a bright light which looked like a star. When he got to the bright light he said he was scared & one thought ran through his mind over & over, “I am what I am.” He met the object face to face & said he once felt like that when he was in love. Imagine that.
July 27th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
@twcjr44 that makes more sense, thank you. I barely 17 , searching for truth, and i cant stop thinking about this. my mind doesnt seem to grasp the idea. thank you
July 27th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
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That depends on how you interpret the word consciousness. My interpretation answers: No, your awareness and perception will be temporarily altered — that’s all. it is unlikely that you will derive any benefit to the quality of your consciousness from drug use. With casual or occasional drug use it is it is very likely that you will make improving the quality of your consciousness more difficult to achieve.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
so if my experience is altered lets say under a substance hhmh THC, then my consciousness is going to be different and taken to new level?
July 27th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
In order to understand what Mr. Campbell tries to explain in 18 videos with lots of contradictions, I suggest you better see Chuck Hillig, THE MEANING OF LIFE, in youtube, and with that you will understand everything in just 13 minutes. Save your time.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Yes it is a model, and an earth PMR perspective; but I think it has some truth and utility at that level.
MBT is a model based on a multi-dimensional perspective.
I dont think either model excludes the other; they come from different perspectives and address different levels.
I dont have your experience in the other realms, so I am focused on the earth realm and the crisis facing the human world.
The planetary organism model seems to make the most sense of the data available to me thus far.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I like all your metaphors – it is a productive and eloquent viewpoint.
You might reply: It is not just a metaphor, it is a fact.
I reply: Don’t confuse any model of reality with reality. Everything we express in language (mentally or verbally) and most of our thought are necessarily metaphors. That is the nature of language. Believing that your model is reality and that reality is objective and physical is a logical error made by most, including most scientists. Yes, MBT is also just a model.
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July 27th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I think I am saying a PMR is a living organism that souls live in and as and embody and develop by their very living in it. Souls have their individual life and destiny as well as participating it the greater life process of the PMR organism.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
My view has been that we live in the living body of the earth, like individual cells live in our bodies. Humanity is a developing structure or organ in the body of the earth – a neocortex? In this century humanity will either realise this and begin to adapt to its planetary function, or it will not and become a cancer, a pathogen. Presently we are behaving like a pathogen – we are poisoning the biosphere (for ourselves).
I think this is what Cameron’s movie Avatar is about.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
The biosphere and universe are artifacts of consciousness – as are we. Your description (“I thought …in its body”) is a good metaphor of the relationship and function between us and our virtual reality (PMR/Earth). Clearly, it is based entirely in the little picture of the physical rather than the big picture of consciousness – but then, most metaphors necessarily are. I like it – it expresses that we are all One engaged in an interactive dance of creative experience. Truth supported by MBT.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
I think it will take me a while to get my head around that.
I thought the body is an artifact of the biosphere – part of the living body of the earth – and we as spirits get to experience life in the living body of the earth through and as a human body/person. We are born into a planetary organism and have our human life in its body.
Most ordinary folk think my notion is pretty whacky.
Yours seems even whackier
But common sense is no measure of truth.
Thank you for the explanation.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
That reality is generated by the nervous system is a belief, not a result. The virtual physical world does indeed appear to be known via the medium of the nervous system. However this is the result of the rule-set that defines our virtual physical reality — there is nothing but consciousness, information, rule-sets, and interpretation. The virtual nervous system has evolved within the PMR simulation as an artifact of the rule-set — it does not define reality — it is defined by reality.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Does this mean you do not accept the results of neuroscience for instance. According to N the world is known via the medium of the nervous system. light for eg is transduced into electrochemical activity.
My understanding is that consciousness is aware of the activity of the nervous system.
Is this not correct?
July 28th, 2010 at 12:32 am
No. The reality is generated by consciousness. The virtual body is also generated by consciousness — it is just interpreted data like the rest of physical reality. Consciousness is the only fundamentally real thing — all else is virtual (information constrained by a ruleset that is interpreted by a consciousness. The attributes and properties of different realities are defined by different rulesets.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Each reality frame is generated by a body; or more exactly, the experience of a reality is generated by a nervous system and a body.
People who have OOBE often find they still have a body; but the body is of a different ‘physicality’ than their earth body and generates experience of a different reality frame or world.
So realities are a function of bodies.
A body focuses consciousness in a specific reality frame.
July 28th, 2010 at 1:11 am
So if this is right the actuality of a planet will depend on the consciousnesses living in it. Therefore the Earth is being changed by the very existence of human consciousness. The reality is changing itself through the agency of human consciousness.
July 28th, 2010 at 1:52 am
@sidsmut22 You dont have any choice but to use your will to experience life. Believing in things because we want to, and they make us feel good are what reall holds us back.
July 28th, 2010 at 2:46 am
thank you jtherva.
i “will” use my free will to to choose what i would like to experience in life.
the whole point of the lecture is to bring your attention to the fact that “being realistic” isnt being realistic.
religious dogma and fear only holds us back ,let it go and find out what you are really all about.
come on in the waters lovely!!!
all that i feel is left to do is thank tom for his profound understanding of the the way things truly are and for sharing.
thank you tom.
July 28th, 2010 at 2:47 am
@sidsmut22 Listen to what you like, but im simply being realistic.
July 28th, 2010 at 3:46 am
“I’m not racist, but I believe peaceful mixing of cultures and races is really unrealistic”
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i dont think you have a lot to add to this discussion with views like that, your just gonna miss the point as far as im concerned.
one system one love and im in no way religious.
how can you be worth listening to if you distance yourself from your source like that?
your experience will be tainted and your observations irrelevent.
July 28th, 2010 at 4:28 am
@sidsmut22 Im not sure what you mean by de-evolve. If you mean doing things which don’t always directly increase our survival, then most of that is because evolution isnt perfect, but has made us in such a way which is enough for us to get by.
The reason we get pleasure from certain things is entirely the result of evolution guiding us to feel pleasure in things which increase survival and reproduction of us and our family. Evolution is our master really, we work for it really.
July 28th, 2010 at 4:30 am
surely a computer would only compute the positive outcomes and their probability and choose the most viable?
why would a system choose to de-evolve?
the act of free will is in the subtle lessons learned and their effect on the rest of the system to produce positive or negative results that combine to create a better future understanding and therefore a more positive future outcome.
July 28th, 2010 at 4:46 am
@twcjr44 I don’t think so. The will is simply the brain doing its work, just like a computer processing information.
I must admit, I don’t see why consciousness is neccissary, perhaps its just a side effect.. I don’t see how you can say will is free to choose, every action can be explained in causality, if you have enough information you can predict with 100% accuracy what someone will choose.
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