Question by Cynical_beyond_belief: What is a Bible for? In modern times?
First and foremost, I am a Catholic, meaning if anyone studies the Bible than anyone else, its the Catholic Church, since they translate, compiled and distributed it since waaaay back.

But now that a lot of issues that cant be solved by consulting the Bible, what is it for? I mean true, back then Matthew, John and Luke etc. are one of the greatest Philosophers of all time, but if we ask them about this Stem Cell debate we are debating about they will probably be like “WTF is a stem cell dude?”, lets just be honest here….

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Answer by Matthew
The Bible is perfect for all times, and the main message is about Jesus Christ! =)

Catholicism isn’t Christian. They worship the pope when they should be worshiping Jesus, man made rules, teach works for salvation, added books to the Bible, worship statues and loads of other idolatry. It can’t save. Only Jesus can. Please pray a sincere prayer with all of your heart admitting to Jesus you are a sinner. Have full faith that His blood pays off all of your sins and accept His gift of everlasting life. I pray that God blesses you with peace. Amen.

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While our bodies are physical and we live in a material environment, some things are beyond the physical. Indeed, the “stuff” that actually makes our physical body – alive – will probably forever evade the grasp of the materialistic scientist, and may finally be … metaphysical. So, continue the search … but it may prove a vain one. God, “the Lord … makes alive” (1Sam 2:6) and He “Himself gives to all life” (Acts 17:25). Life, most likely, will be eternally known to us as an incalculably valuable, beyond empirical dissection, continually miraculous … metaphysical gift. But, that is not all. Inside this metaphysically animated body resides “the elements” that make up our personhood. Our abilities, aptitudes – indeed our personality – may also finally, and forever, be metaphysical attributes.

At one time, philosophers forwarded the concept of, “tabula rasa” – we are born a blank state and are then molded by our environment. This has been broadly abandoned, as an absolute, as it is now recognized that some degree of preprogramming exists in each person. Environment then serves to enhance – or injure – one’s predispositions. I think of this preprogrammed “package” as one’s “metaphysical imprint.” It is a package of that unfold as life unfolds. Environmental opportunities are granted (or denied) for development of said traits.

Why can one person receive the best training, unlimited opportunity, and all the tools necessary to master some endeavor – and never be any good – and yet one “born on the wrong side of the tracks,” with minimal training, can excel in that same undertaking? We instinctively call such a one, – and rightly so. People are gifted … or not. Every aptitude will ultimately be traced back to God as its Author. At the Final Judgment, that will be the basis upon which He will require an accounting for how such aptitudes were employed.

One’s abilities can be used for good or bad. Since it is God who creates and then distributes these gifts, He alone decides if the use has been good or bad. The primary demarcation is if one’s abilities were employed in honoring the God of the Bible, and promoting His agenda … or not. Musical abilities are an example. So also, business prowess. Organizational and leadership abilities are a couple more. Writing is yet another. There are multitudes of natural talents that can be used either way. Additionally, some people are granted more talents than others (Mt 25:14-30 – and you think this is only about money?). “He who is not with Me is against Me; and He who does not gather with Me scatters” (Lk 11:23). Our objections to such narrowness … will not prevail.

When one is born again, spiritual gifts are disbursed. These are grants beyond that first imprint. The Spirit distributes “to each one individually as He wills” (1Cor 12:11). These are either used positively – or are neglected. Obviously, God wants them used. They cannot be used negatively like natural giftings can be. That is an oxymoron. By the way, one’s natural giftings may very well be “cleaned up” and employed by God in His Kingdom expansion. But, this must be carefully worked out before the individual and God – as one seeks Him on His desires for one’s work and witness. My music testimony, in the Article, is as an example of such a process.

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There are two basic elements to man’s sin problem. The first is an inherited sin nature. This has bents, or inclinations, toward errant behavior. The second problem involves areas of moral weakness – absent any bent toward that errant behavior. This should really be understood as some area of moral – not a character flaw. Neither of these accrue any personal guilt before God. Only the commission of the errant behavior creates guilt.

Adam, the first man, was created without a sin nature. He was created in God’s “image” and “likeness” (Gen 1:26). But after he sinned, we find this subtle statement at the birth of his son, Seth: “(Adam) became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image …” (Gen 5:3). Seth entered this world in Adam’s “likeness” and “image” – not God’s. Unfortunately, this new inheritance did not end with Seth. We enter this world “in Adam” (1Cor 15:22). One result? “For the inclination of man’s heart is evil from his youth” (Gen 8:21). Each of us are born with at least sin-bent … probably several … maybe many. No one inherits every possible sin inclination. Some cannot co-exist in the same person. For example, one cannot be a sluggard who “works around work,” – with the life goal of a recliner in front of a television set – and also be one who “loves to be first,” ambitiously striving for “chief seats” in some synagogue … or its equivalent (2Thes 3:11, 3Jn 9 and Mk 12:39). Paul said that “death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of Adam’s offense” (Ro 5:12-15). Cain, Lamech, Balaam and all the rest, sinned differently than Adam … attracted by different “forbidden fruits.” Not all sin natures are created equal.

In addition to these bents, each person also has areas of moral weakness. Jesus, who did not have a sin nature, was “tempted in all ways just as we are, yet without sin” (Heb 4:15). The phrase, “just as we are” is “kath homoiotata” – “according to similarity.” We are tempted … even in areas where we possess no bent. I think of this as a “weak spot,” or “soft spot,” that is subject to some moral challenge. These vulnerabilities may have more to do with the struggle in a given situation – as opposed to the outright seeking of some prohibited activity that “an inclination” would stimulate. I examine some of Jesus’ temptations (and the dynamics as asserted in the previous statement) in, I think you will find this of great interest.

James tells us “each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death” (Ja 1:14,15). While temptation often plays off one’s particular sin inclinations, that is not always the case. Adam lusted – without a sin nature – and then sinned. He desired more than God’s legitimate allotment for him. Though Eve was deceived into sin, Adam was not. “It was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman, being quite deceived, fell into transgression” (1Tim 2:14). Adam rebelled. In fact, he was present when Eve was being duped, allowed her to eat of that forbidden fruit, and when she didn’t die (physically), then he partook. He let Eve … be the guinea pig. Just another one of the animals I guess. Real nice guy. The fallen angels were also created without sin – and then chose it. All these angels (and Adam too) were created innocent … but possessed at least area of moral weakness … probably several … maybe many. Weak spots were attacked, evil was chosen, and falls occurred. And just as inclinations toward sin are individualized bents, so also are the areas of moral weakness. Where one person may possess a particular weakness, another may not. For example, there is no evidence Eve … wanted to use Adam as a guinea pig that day. You know, after losing their nice home, and after Eve had some time to review and replay that entire episode … I wonder how their relationship blossomed?

Just as God physically molds each one as He so desires (Ex 4:10,11), He also assembles each one’s metaphysical imprint, with the varied elements, as so chooses. David stated, “For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother’s womb …” (Ps 139:13). To limit this verse to physical attributes only – is to limit this verse. This invisible metaphysical imprint is as unique to each person – as is one’s DNA combination or personal fingerprints. None are created equal. “For just as you do not know the path of the wind and how the spirit enters the bones in the womb of the pregnant woman, so you do not know the activity of God who makes all things” (Eccl 11:5). God has His own purposes behind this “activity” – but, the day will be welcomed when all my bents and weak spots are forever expunged … leaving just positive parts. This is a great part of the Christian hope and expectation. May it be yours as well. “Who will set me free from the body of this death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Ro 7:24,25).

Question by The Axis: Are there any enlightenment to modern philosophers who been influences from The Bible, especially Genesis?
Genesis or Exodus

Which philosophers, and which of their works reflect that connection

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Answer by Keep Earth clean,it’s not Uranus
No

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By Donald Swarbrick.

Here is something else to ponder, if you want to compare events in the bible to what we know today.

How would the people from biblical times describe the vision in the picture above?

This is an example of how the star in the east could have come about, when all the time it was an aircraft, never seen in the skies in these times, a simple case of mistaken identity, due to lack of knowledge.

It might not be exactly how we would describe it in this day and age if it were to have taken place yesterday, but it gives one example of how reporters could translate it to the newspapers, given our knowledge now.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, each give their account of events at the time of Jesus conception, birth and early life, and regardless of the many translations of these gospels, plus the description of four different men of these times, there is a strong indication that the phenomenal occurrences that happened were influenced by superior beings from another planet.

If we take a look at some of the important factors described by these four individuals, we should see how much easier it would have been to prove the existence of space travelers if they had the technology of the world we live in today. If they had the same knowledge as people from the twenty first century or, if the events we are going to look at happened in this day and age everything described would be more clear cut, although the fear of God would still he present. This was the time of King Herod and in his domain so with the prophecies about this new born child’s future threatening his ruler ship he ordered its death. The Wise Men who, had been guided towards the child’s birthplace by what has been accepted as a star, told Herod of the birth, of the importance of the child, of their intention to visit him and present him with gifts.

There are no stars in the sky capable of guiding anyone to a particular place on earth’s surface in such a way, (although sailors in the early days before, the compass was invented used stars for guidance, it was not in the same way as this event recorded in the bible) so my assumption is that the bright light was a small craft or power pack used by an “angel” within earth’s atmosphere which would give the appearance of a star to the more primitive people of that era.

The people around the Middle Eastern countries in these times knew something exceptional was taking place but could not fathom exactly what; making them create the mystique that has been deciphered from the scriptures. The Wise Men were so called in my estimation, because they understood what the light meant, although not what it was, but they had accepted the existence of God hence the reason they were chosen. They had been told of Herod’s plan to kill God’s son, (through mental telepathy) which they describe as a dream, and would most likely have appeared to them as such with God and his crews not wanting to reveal too much of their powers. They disobeyed Herod’s wish for them to return and tell him of the whereabouts of the child, taking another route home.

At the same time an angel (which we have established are God’s crew carrying messages to earthlings from the spaceships above) warned Joseph to flee to Egypt with Mary and the baby, as Herod was going to kill all the boys of two years or under, making sure the baby who threatened his dominance would be exterminated. Joseph and his family had been sent to a land that was well known to God’s crews, to await Herod’s death, the news of which would be relayed to him in the usual way by an angel. This was another strange occurrence Joseph had come to accept proving his belief in God’s existence, although not fully understanding, had complete faith in his guidance, taking Jesus to Nazareth where he would spend his early years. All these events had been foretold by the early prophets, so they came as no surprise to the more intelligent people of the time, one of whom was John or John the Baptist as he was to be known, as it was he who was chosen to baptize God’s son.

John had already been telling the earthlings about God and his crews from Heaven and as their spaceships had been present (although disguised) in the skies, and, they had been influencing life on earth for some time it stands to reason the news of them was beginning to spread, just as they had planned. They wanted their existence to be known, but could never make the earthlings fully understand where they came from and why they were so advanced compared to them, When the myths and mystique grew around them they used it to their advantage as it created the required effect, gaining the attention of the people towards the warnings about earth’s demise and the safe haven of Heaven the space travelers had to offer.

John the Baptist had the sense to realise what was taking place, he had heard of the prophecies that had been ignored before and knew of “the wrath of the Gods”. It says in Matthew Chapter three verse sixteen that after, Jesus was baptized by John, “the heavens were opened and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove.” And a voice from Heaven said this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. More reason to believe spacecraft were in the skies above, or would you rather believe in a mystical character floating on vaporized water with feathered wings rather than the more logical explanation of people inside spacecraft, hovering above the earth. I can understand people of two thousand years ago thinking the ridiculous, but it puzzles me why in this day of space travel, primitive as it is, earthlings still believe in the myths of angels with harps and feathered wings floating on clouds.

We have updated the Bible into modern language, but still hold on to the myths and evade the reality. If a true translation were to be written, the events after the baptism of Jesus would read like this, “after the baptism, as Jesus came out of the water, God who had been watching from the spaceship revealed the presence of the craft by sliding back the door underneath it allowing the inner lights to beam down to earth where he then descended from in his smaller craft (used only in the inner hemisphere) to where they were, while transmitting the message through the loudspeakers saying, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED”!

These were the only moments the armada above could be spotted and as the witnesses did not understand fully what they were looking up into, they tried to express it the only way they knew, providing us with the mystique that we have come to connect Heaven with. Jesus was then led out into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil where his allegiance to his father GOD would be tested to the limit, proving he was without the sinful worldly nature the earthlings possessed even though he was part earthling. When you read through the Bible, you begin to realise why it was interpreted in this way through the years, with present day man still wanting to pretend that he is the only intelligent life in the Universe. A power such as I am unfolding to you now is better thought of as being a spiritual, unrealistic force rather than face up to the fact that they are real and can reappear in our skies at anytime! It’s this fear of the unknown that makes man reject these things, but if he began to accept them for what they really are, they would realise it is only the devil’s ships they have to fear, as they will have a big say, as to where our destiny lies, (the planet Heaven or the planet Hell!)

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By Donald Swarbrick

Carrying on in the same theme from last week, you might like to set your mind working on other instruments, mentioned in Ezekiel that resembles some of the technology used in our world today.

If you read these chapters and look at it with the knowledge we have today, the gadgets and ways of communication seem more familiar,than strange, because it is items we use in everyday life.

Take a look.

In Chapter five it verifies that God and his crews centered their earth mission in Jerusalem, a place they helped create and will become more relevant later. We have to remember that Ezekiel was chosen as a prophet and his job was to warn what was, or is, going to befall earth when the last days approach and what we have to do to survive these horrific events, also that we can be punished by God before this if, we continue to disregard his existence.

Chapter six is explaining that when the word of the prophets reach other countries their stories will become distorted through time and distance and as there is no positive evidence of their existence, false Gods will be invented to worship. Was this not the case with the Vikings and other races I have mentioned in this book? Only in years to come, when God returns with his crafts and the earthlings see the proof first hand, will they realise that God and his crews the Bible tells of are, travelers from a PLANET called Heaven and they do exist. Although most religions on earth make God out to be all good, belies the fact that he is only going to save and reward the ones who deserves it. We tend to forget the punishments handed out to unbelievers in the Bible and the terrible atrocities brought to bear on them by the supreme God.

Chapter seven reminds us of this in no uncertain terms, where in Verse Four states, “and mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee, AND YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD.” Verse seven goes on to tell of how in the last days, when the evil that will end earth’s existence begins, God’s ships will be there to save us, but only once they judge to see if we are fit to live the rest of our lives on their planet Heaven, or if we will be banished to the Devil’s ships and taken to Hell.

Try Verse Eight onwards for confirmation and bring to mind that we have to answer for the way we conduct ourselves down here. The God we have been brainwashed into believing in is more human that we have been taught not, a ghostly vision. The human element is there although, evolved on a different planet, the likenesses are the same as us here on earth after all we were made in his likeness. God from Heaven evolved from the same matter as we did its only their abundance of knowledge, accumulated over the billions of years start they had on us, plus their ability to utilise every useful morsel in the universe by reaching them first that makes them the superior race of all the stars within and out, with our vision. Even so we are told not to be afraid of them because they don’t mean any harm to the good of earth. It stands to reason that if they have perfected life up in their own planet, they won’t want evil, pollution or disease carried back to upset the tranquillity of Heaven.

Evil and the devil’s presence are still on earth and the rivalry between the planets of Heaven and Hell still goes on although the dispute between God and the Devil is over as each has their own planet now. The Devil is still attempting to lure people to his planet to assist in the running of it, whereas God has perfected his planet and when the good go there, they will experience that perfect life promised to us by him.

Chapter Eight gives us the impression of a vision taking shape among shimmering laser lights where a journey of virtual reality begins, if you just picture a computer today, with each press of the mouse, unfolding chambers leading through each phase until your goal is reached or, the story told, then you should be able to understand Ezekiel’s attempt at describing his virtual reality experience, even though the computer used would be far superior to anything we have on earth today. It goes to prove, for every new invention we come up with here, the Gods have already perfected it long ago. All through Chapter Eight, verses begin with “he said unto me” or God guiding Ezekiel through his journey of virtual reality, instructing him on how to use the complicated device, showing him the events God wished him to see. Even at the beginning of Chapter Nine it says “he cried also in mine ears with a loud voice saying,” which could be God’s equivalent to our earphones, although a much more sophisticated version, (like an implanted micro-chip) or simply mental telepathy would be a more likely answer.

Virtual reality helmets could be used for various things, but still run on the same basis that we use them for on earth. It carries on into Chapter Ten when we have a description of the space craft again and in Verse Ten, “as for their appearances they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel.” A reference to the gyroscopic power source situated at each corner of the craft used by the crews traveling to and from the mother craft in the sky above perhaps, or just a jet engine.

Verse Sixteen of Chapter Ten would confirm this if the events were described by someone from this century, instead of a person from so far back in time. “And when the cherubims went, the wheels went by them, and when the cherubims lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth the same wheels also turned not from beside them. Just to give more credence to my theory I will have to stress the fact that these visions, called angels, have wheels which when depicted in paintings or in imaginations, do not have wheels! Now, do you agree that it is time to look at them through different eyes?

In Verse Twenty One where we read again, “Every one had four faces apiece, and everyone four wings and the likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings. Ezekiel’s descriptions of these events are difficult for us to understand but would that not be the arms of the man under the wings of his power source? This seems to be a clear indication of craft like this being on the earth, if not, what else would it have been?

When we think of visitors from another planet we should not always think of them as warriors with all the doom and gloom, portrayed by the cinema, they are after all just like us, and although there is plenty violence on earth we also have our light hearted moments, as will they.      The description of the spacecraft could be made more difficult for us to understand if they had transfers or murals covering outer bodywork the way truckers of today have, or if some of their craft were moulded in the fashion of creatures faces similar to the way some vehicles on our roads appear to have a face and personality. This would make it harder for earthlings of days gone by to describe the strange features on the craft and, if faces of creatures from far off planets were painted on them it is easy to see how Ezekiel would have been confused with this vision before him never, seen on earth, until that moment. There has never been anything on earth resembling these descriptions, other than then, when we were being visited by our friends from Heaven.

Try as I might I just cannot get the full picture of these flying machines or, the actual way they are propelled, but when we get our chance to see them it will all become clear.

If I were to see them, at least I would have a better idea of how they worked, and would be able to understand their purpose, and capabilities, not being awestruck by their presence like the poeple from the past.

If any of us saw them we could describe them better, so why do we find it hard to believe, that it is machines that are being talked about instead of thinking about feathered flying people, and communications, and visions coming from thin air?

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By.Donald Swarbrick.

In my last post I was trying to give an example of how things would have been described by people from these time, and how they used the only items around them to try to explain events they were witnessing but had no concept of what really was going on.

The words and descriptions that were used then would take on a completely different form, as we now know more about the universe, and have built machines that can fly not only inside our atmosphere but go out into space, albeit not too far.

It might come as a shock if another craft from another part of the universe landed here today, but we would understand more about it and be able to describe the event in a more logical way.

What I am trying to say is the events recorded in the Old Testament by Ezekiel would have been more explicit if  they had the knowledge we have today.

I will give you an example by showing you another excerpt from “unfeatheredangels” (Which quotes the bible)  and then have you try and picture what Ezekiel is trying to describe in todays terms.

no feathers flying here

CHAPTER NINE
UNFEARTHERED ANGELS
“Ezekiel”, holds the key to my theory and when we can crack this code, we will know the secrets and mysteries of the skies and of course unfold the truth of our own destiny. If ever anyone was trying to describe aircraft or power packs attached to men, Ezekiel is, giving a more intriguing and believable insight to the crafts from Heaven than any other report we have read, even in comparison to the latest sightings in our era.

Chapter one verse one, (the last two lines,) “The Heavens were opened and I saw visions of God.” If the mother ships were camouflaged by clouds, or the space station was large enough to be observed from earth it would only be a case of the doors of the spaceship or station, being opened creating the illusion of the Heavens opening to an earthling, with God emerging from it on some kind of small craft. That is the scene we should picture today, not some ghostly figure emerging from thin air as we have been led to believe.

A spaceship ten miles long and two miles wide is a massive construction when compared to aircraft on earth, but the planet Heaven as we have established is massive in comparison to earth so it could follow that any human forms, or man-made objects from Heaven would he much larger than earth. Imagine an object of that proportion appearing in our skies at cloud level, its apparition blending in with the clouds and a large hatch opening from underneath allowing a person from within to stand at it, with the interior lights shinning behind him showing him in silhouette.

Is that not the description the Bible gives when God appears from Heaven, and is the Bible’s account of these events not the way a man from two thousand years ago or more would have described such a frightening occurrence? Nobody seemed to pick up on the connection in the Bible between the colossal structures built at the time of the Pharaohs and the fact that God was on and around the earth at that time. The reason for this is that they are too busy looking at the mystical side of things and not the practical side. They don’t seem to want God to be a person who evolved like their selves albeit, in a much larger form, they want to look on him through the same eyes as our less technically advanced ancestors.

The people chosen by God to foretell our destiny (Ezekiel being one) were shown images of events about to happen, some imminent at that time others had not occurred even yet but will happen in the very near future. Ezekiel also had the privilege to see first hand the different types of craft used by God’s crews.
I am going to quote most of chapter one of Ezekiel and translate it in the way it should be translated in this day and age. Starting from verse four “ And I looked, and behold, a great whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud and a fire unfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst, thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

” VERSE FIVE “Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures, and this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.” SIX “And every one had four faces and every one had four wings.” SEVEN “And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot; and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.” EIGHT “And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

” NINE “Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; and they went every one straight forward.” TEN “As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion on the right side; and they had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.” ELEVEN “thus were their faces; and their wings were stretched upwards; two wings of every one were joined to one another, and two covered their bodies.” TWELVE “And they went every one straight forward; whither the spirit was to go, they went and they turned not when they went.

” THIRTEEN “As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps; it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright and out of the fire went forth lightning.” FOURTEEN “And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.” FIFTEEN “Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.” SIXTEEN “The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl; and they four had one likeness; and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.” SEVENTEEN “When they went they went upon their four sides; and they turned not when they went.” EIGHTEEN “As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

” NINETEEN “And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.” TWENTY “Whither soever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them; for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.” TWENTY ONE “When those went these went; and when those stood these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them; for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.” TWENTY THREE “And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other; every one had two which covered on this side, and every one had two which covered on that side, their bodies.” TWENTY FOUR “And when they went I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host; when they stood they let down their wings.”

It should not take much imagination of people from the twenty first century to see what is really being described in these verses of Ezekiel; it would take more of an imagination now, to interpret them in the way that has been handed down to us, as if they were monsters or creatures unknown to us. Nevertheless here is my version without quoting all the Chapters.

Engines and rotor blades create whirlwinds as I have already mentioned and the cloud and the fire would be one way of describing the exhaust trail they leave especially if you have never see an example of this before. They appeared to look like men because they were men with power packs which would be one of their methods of getting around earth and going between there and their ships or space stations. The four faces and four wings are easily explained when you visualise the small flying machines we use in today’s world.

The very description of the visions in this chapter is exactly how I would expect someone from these times to describe the flying machine attached to the man who flew across the English Channel that I mention in this book. The description of wings in the bible when moving never flap, ( under the firmament were their wings straight) they always make loud noises and cause a draft (whirlwind) and the spirit that was in the living creature and in the wheels mentioned, was the engine or the power source. The creatures appeared and disappeared like a flash of lightning which would be fast, with a trail off the jet engine or power source attached to their bodies. In these times there should be no doubt from anybody what the machines are and there should be no doubting that we are not alone in the universe.

What else could these things be that are being described in Ezekiel other that flying machines, machines that would be described in a very different way today if we seen them with our own eyes.

Your views will be very much appreciated.

By Donald Swarbrick.

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I have used an excerpt from “unfeatheredangels” this week to remind you where the idea of feathered angels came from, and to give you time to think how you would describe a vision such as an angel today if it were to fly about with wings. We know now that wings are not all made with feathers, and that man can fly, so why hold on to myths?

Chapter Thirty Seven of Ezekiel makes me realise the importance of having our remains kept buried and untouched until  Gods return to make their promise of everlasting life a reality. Not so very long ago mankind would never believe such a feat possible and when reading the Bible wondered, just how it could be carried out if at all. With each advancement man makes in medicine, each promise of  God becomes more understandable.

I used to wonder, how we could live forever! How was it possible to come back from the dead? God has shown Ezekiel, who in turn is telling us that it is possible, through his demonstration of bringing an army back to life from a pile of dried bones, and I quote, “the hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones.” Note, Ezekiel never traveled by donkey which was the main means of transport then, he traveled by some kind of craft which he describes as “the spirit of the Lord”. Verse five, “thus saith the Lord God unto these bones, I will cause breath to enter into you and ye shall live.”

The chapter goes on to describe how God brings a pile of bones back from the dead, in a way that is almost possible in today’s world with our advances in D.N.A and cloning. Archaeologists think they can desecrate graves without repercussion of people who lived hundreds of years ago, but it makes you wonder if in the future, when, “the dead in Christ shall rise,” that the harm done at that time might make a difference then! Probably not, as nothing seems to be impossible to God but we should still give it some consideration when excavating the graves of our ancestors as they in their form now, might be looking down on us and watching the way we deal with their remains.

God has shown Ezekiel by this deed that they have the means to overcome any obstacle, standing in their way. They have allowed secrets to unfold, to the chosen few and through the prophets tried to warn mankind, just how powerful and advanced their nation beyond the stars has become. Before we leave Ezekiel, bear in mind that the paintings hung around our art galleries and palatial buildings of cherubim s and angels with feathered wings and human faces have brainwashed us into believing, they are the true images of the power packs or small craft God and his people used while carrying out their duties on earth. In reality, a cherubim was a type of spacecraft the angels (as they had come to be known by) used to travel between earth and the mother ship above.

The angels were messengers of god who would have looked as normal as we do but by their use of the cherubim s, (small aircraft used within earth’s atmosphere) they have been depicted with feathered wings, in Greek legend and such like philosophy from the vague descriptions given in the Bible. At the time, when the first images of these angels were being brought to life in paintings or statues by famous artists of the past, birds were the only known thing to man that could fly, so it stands to reason that the images conjured up in their minds of people flying, would have to be with bird like wings even though the wings depicted could never support in flight, the weight of the bodies they are attached to.

If engines and mechanical flight had been invented on earth at that time, a truer definition of these marvels would have been depicted, but sadly the myth of angels and cherubim with feathers gripped the imaginations of their primitive minds and even when man has reached the moon we still hang on to these myths.

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