Question by Cliff Harris: Can any of you evolutionists dispute this?
Natural Philosophy = Philosophy based on laws determined by philosophy.
Natural Science – Philosophy that passes the scientific method but usually gets disproven eventually anyway.
Whether you are a natural philosopher like charles darwin, or an equally philosophical natural scientist, you have no claim to any truth unless you get it from God. There is no truth except that which comes from Him.
Any scientific fact is only a scientific fact until new philosophies (evidence) are discovered (or crafted) that disproves it.
And any scientific experiment intended to conclusively determine any absolute truths, would have to require every single factor in the universe (an infinite amount) to be present, and the person doing the experiment would have to have infinite knowledge of every single factor from the infinitely smallest to the infinitelety largest. And with that knowledge, you would be able to determine an absolute truth. But modern science is no where near that. So all they do is guess using philosophies to try to understand life which are comstantly replaced with new and equally ignorant philosphies on a daily basis without coming at all closer to attaining absolute truth. Man lacks the capacity to determine absolute knowledge of all things in existance. We can’t even remember 10,000 phone numbers much less complete knowledge of even 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000,0…
things in the universe which is actually infinately less then infinity.
For example to make any absolute statement in truth about molecules you would have to have complete knowledge and understanding of not just 1 but every molecule in existance. And we lack that capacity. So complete knowledge of every molecule, atom, and quark, are just the beginning. We’d have to know everything else also. And that is not likely to happen through science/natural philosophy.
The Correct Way to go about it is to ask The One who made everything in existance, the one who keeps the trillions of laws that govern the universe not just every second, or every billionth of a second, or even a trillionth of a second, but the one who keeps the universe running constantly even to the innfinately smallest fraction of a second.
Still not convinced? Lets examine the odds that every law in the universe would remain constant even for 2 trillionths of a second. being that there are over 100 trillion laws in place we’ll say just 1,000 laws governing the universe to make this more relative. So here are the odds.
for every .000000000001/second you will have to guess the correct random number between 1 and 1,000 and get the correct number every time.
in other words.
.000000000001
“Quick roll the 1,000 sided dice and hope it lands on 1, wow it landed on 1! Let’s hope it does it again!”
.000000000002
“Quick roll the 1,000 sided dice and hope it lands on 1, wow it landed on 1! Let’s hope it does it again!”
.000000000003
“Quick roll the 1,000 sided dice and hope it lands on 1, wow it landed on 1! Let’s hope it does it again!”
And it would have to be correct at least a trillion times per second, and never guessing incorrectly even once.
This is the logic of the philosophers trying to support a Godless universe.
einstein: 100.00%
redstapl: try again
jack very good statement. Since However perhaps better said, Christians can determine truth by the Bible and know absolute Truths.. however Atheists, play trial and error and have been for thousands of years and have not even 1 absolute truth to go by.
The best science can do is “the sun rose yesterday, therefore the sun will rise tomorrow”
taikutsu: Actually philosophy has not done any such thing. modern philosophy (science) uses metaphysics and probablity to lead people to believe such things about the universe. They have absolutely no way at all of determing if the earth is the center of the univers or not. 25,000,000,000 galaxies to the east as well as to the north south and west. In fact, modern philosophy/science/metaphysics contracdicts itself, in regards to quantum theory by the light from the east, not having yet met with the light from the west, which according to the big bang nonsense should have happened billiion upon billions of years ago.
thank you for your response alex l, but in additon to eliminating the laws of time and motion, you are also eliminating the laws of thermodynamics, and at least 100 other ones. For example, what law specifies how long a single law is in place for? The 3000 year law? the 2999 year law? And these laws are based on math, so what law determined the mathemtical laws of math, and how long have the mathmatical laws of math been present, unless math was a constant law before the laws of mathmatics were created. The entire atheistic imagination is designed for those who choose not to think beyond the limits of their philosopher role models.
taikutsu: no they actually haven’t
they use metaphysics and probabilty, to form philosophies. But have no true knowledge of anything about space.
actually you need to do some studying, YES all those sciences you named are metaphysics – “we can’t prove any of this garbage we are telling you but just believe us ok?” that is metaphysics motto. here try this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics
alex modern natural philosophers have philosophically stated (which passed the scientific method making them empirical philosophies) that the universe is always changing. So how can the laws remain constant if that is the case?
Saeed well said, so why are you giving up your soul to eternal seperation from God and all the Goodness that only comes from him, like love, mercy, compassion, generosity, trust, and kindness, condemining yourself to eternity without any of those for evolution which you don’t even believe is absolutely true?
Best answer:
Answer by Einstein
To how many decimal points do you know the existense of a god?
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